After about two years of dating Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift made the podcast appearance heard 'round the world. The 14-time Grammy Award winner joined the Kansas City Chiefs' tight end on an episode of his "New Heights" podcast with his brother, Jason, and discussed their relationship, her career and her ongoing football education inan hour-plus discussion published Wednesday. More than 1.3 million people were watching concurrently at one point in the episode, in which Swift unveiled the cover art of her new album, "The Life of a Showgirl," which comes out Oct. 3. Taylor Swift unveils the cover art for her new album, The Life of a Showgirl, on Travis and Jason Kelce's New Heights 🤯(via@newheightshow)pic.twitter.com/ScxodLoOKu — Yahoo Sports (@YahooSports)August 13, 2025 The appearance was a long time coming. The relationship's beginnings were documented on the same podcast, which has seen enough crossover attention togarner a nine-figure deal with Amazon's Wondery network. Or as Swift said: "This podcast has done a lot for me. I owe a lot to this podcast. This podcast got me a boyfriend, ever since Travis decided to use it as his personal dating app about two years ago." There was plenty more learned from Wednesday. Most fans will know the Swift-Kelce relationship began with a friendship bracelet, with Kelce publicly saying he was interested and unsuccessfully attempting to offer Swift a friendship bracelet. It turns out Swift was actually quite charmed by his straightforward message of "I WANT TO DATE YOU," but she was less than impressed with the logistical work he put into setting up a meeting: "He didn't even reach out to our management. When this podcast came out, I was like 'Did he ever reach out to be in the tents, or did we know he was in the building?' He came with Pat [Mahomes], and he thought that 'cause he knows the elevator lady, he could talk to her about just getting down there. "That's how it works in 1973. He was really like, 'I know a guy, I can figure this out.'" Kelce didn't get his meeting that day, but it obviously worked out. Swift has been a mainstay at Chiefs games for two seasons now, but she entered the relationship with plenty to learn: "Jason, on our first date, I legitimately asked him what it was like when the Chiefs played the Eagles in the Super Bowl, and he looked across the field across the line of scrimmage and saw his brother standing on the other, like five feet in front of him on the field. "He didn't even look at me. Like, I now know what an insane question that was … I thought everyone was on the field at the same time. I thought it was like Jared Goff is here, and Josh Allen is here, and they blow a whistle, and they go at each other, and they're like, who's going to win?" Taylor Swift on how she thought football was played 😅"I thought it was like Jared Goff is here and Josh Allen's here [on the field at the same time] ... then they blow a whistle and they go at each other." 😂(via@newheightshow)pic.twitter.com/rwx80FHyNN — Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport)August 14, 2025 We all have to start somewhere, and let's just say Swift has put in the work since then. Less than a year into their relationship, the Chiefs drafted Texas wide receiver Xavier Worthy, famed for being the fastest player in the history of the NFL scouting combine. By that time, Swift was excited enough about Kansas City's new weapon that her friends sounded a little worried: "Oh my God, I fell in love with it, I became obsessed with it. I became a person who was running through the halls of my house screaming, 'WE DRAFTED XAVIER WORTHY!' My friends are like, 'Who bodysnatched you? What do you mean we drafted Xavier Worthy?'" TAYLOR SWIFT x XAVIER WORTHYpic.twitter.com/mlcIY58CKB — Pranav Sriraman (@PranavSriraman)August 13, 2025 The education is still a work in progress, but Swift expects to get there: "We're talking about Cover 2, Cover 4, Cover 0 ... I'm not ready to be an analyst right now, but give me 16 months." One of the biggest stories of the music industry in the past year has been Swift's nine-figure deal to reacquire the masters of her first six studio albums from the private equity firm Shamrock Holdings. It was a personal thing for Swift, who said, "I thought about not owning my music every day." When she finally got the call that Shamrock had accepted her offer, she quickly went to tell Kelce: "I just, like, very dramatically hit the floor, for real. I started bawling my eyes out ... I'm like 'Get yourself together, get your s*** together, just go tell Travis in a normal way.' I knock on the door, he's playing video games. I'm trying to say it in a normal way, and I'm just like '... TRAVIS!' He puts his headset down. He's like, 'Guys, gotta go,' and I think he thought something was wrong. "You come up, and I'm just like, 'I got all my music back.' And then just start heaving, dropped, had no power in my legs to support myself." 🎥| Taylor Swift telling the story of her reclaiming her masters during her New Heights episodepic.twitter.com/EA2KOXeTaD — Taylor Swift Edits (@TSwiftEdits_13)August 13, 2025 As far as hobbies go, Swift said all of her hobbies go back to the 1700s — sewing, cooking, painting, baking — with sourdough baking a particular obsession recently. She discussed going through countless sourdough blogs and baking loaf after loaf for Kelce to try. Between those hobbies and her lack of activity on social media, it led to the following sentence: "All I really use the internet for is sourdough and when Travis shows me videos of otters on his Instagram algorithm." Kelce's interest in otters apparently goes well beyond just watching videos: "He wants one specifically whose life he saved, who knows that he saved its life ... He doesn't want to like go up to an otter and take it from its mother. He wants to see an otter, and the otter's like, 'My paws caught in a shell.' And he's like, 'I got you.' And then the otter's like, 'Thank you forever' with its little paws. "We have discussed maybe carrying around cans of sardines just in case we run into one. It's better in principle than it is in practice." On a related note, Swift confirmed she was aware of Kelce's "I just gave a squirle a peice of bread" tweet. The man is an animal lover. We also learned plenty about the impression Jason Kelce has made on Swift, specifically when she asked if he would like to meet the Royal Family with her at the Eras Tour: "I knew you were serious when I went, 'Jason, do you want to go meet them?' I watched him have this moment with his beer where he was just like, 'But I want to take it, but I know that I probably should not take it.' I watched this happen ... 'If I don't have my beer, what do I do with my hand now?'" Kelce said she was correct: "I like that you picked up on it, because that's exactly what was going on in my head." Long story short, Kelce did not bring his beer to meet Prince William and his family.
